VIlle du BARE fokuserer på de som skyter ut rakettene og at vi forstår dem fordi de er undertrykte? Hva med de mange 10 tusentalls personene i Halden og Sarpsborg-skal man ikke dokumentere at de er i truet sone og må springe ned i bomberommet 3 gangerdalig minst-også midt på natten? I Halden:bombealarmen gikk og man har 15 sekunder på seg til å springe i skjul i nærmeste bomberom. I sarpsborg: bombealarmen gikk og man har 45 sekunder på å springe ned i bomberommet. Barn som springer fra bomberom til bomberom for å komme seg hjem. Skoler og barnehager som er stengte-og fordi ingen gikk på skolen den dagen ble ingen barn drept da både skolen og barnehagen ble slått i filler av en stor rakett. Tilsiktet hvor mange barn da? Folk som holder seg innenhus i flere uker i strekk.
Er dette irrelevant i konflikten? (Den ene byen heter Sderot der er det mest raketter-og har vært i 7-8 år. Den andre byen heter Ashdod.Over 100.000 mennesker er truet og har vært det i mange mange år-selv i tider av våpenhvile)

Som leser-vil man ha hele bildet? Eller vil man kløyve bildet i to og nistirre på den høyre delen av maleriet?

Jeg synes dette er en sterk beskrivelse av hvordan man har det i Israel i byen Ashdod. Først nådde rakettene fra Gaza kun til Sderot. Nå når de lengre…
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Tuesday, January 13, 2009
The 18’th day.

This is the first day I have been outside my home all day. I cannot tell you how good that was….
Since the war started we have spent most of our time inside house for security reasons. TV has been on non stop in order to get the latest updates. We have seen so much misery…..
I don’t think any other country has covered what’s going on in any way similar to the Israeli news. We see all the terrible pictures of civilians suffering, bombed houses, funerals , children crying…. We hear conversations with Arab doctors from hospitals inside the Gaza Strip and from reporters living there explaining about lack of electricity and water and a whole lot of other things that we just take for granted.
On the other hand we see Mosques full of weapons, schools with bomb traps and store rooms with weapons and subterranean tunnel systems.
We have lots of soldiers fighting with Hamas activists face to face. These young men are somewhere between 18 and 21 years old (… that’s as long as their army service lasts for: 3 years. ) I don’t have any sons , but I can tell you that I cannot afford losing even one of them…. We want the parents to pass away before their children are being buried.
There are no celebrations in Israel when Arabs are killed. It does not make us happy to see Arab funerals on TV. Israel is not “thirsty for Arab blood”.
Unfortunately we know that when Jews are killed in suicide attacks, blown up, stabbed to death, run over by vehicles of various kinds or as a result of rockets our neighbors are celebrating.
There are some extreme right wing Jewish groups, but they do not have any support from the rest of the Jewish society.

I remember watching a Palestinian peace activist some months ago. She was a religious Moslem with husband and children. Some years ago she “signed up” to become a “shaheed” (a Moslem martyr by wearing explosives on her body in order to blow herself and others up ) The morning she left for her mission she told her 7 year old daughter that she did it “for her future”.
Luckily this woman did not succeed and was sentenced to some years in prison. While in jail she got to know a female Jewish prison officer. By the time she was released her view on “how to solve problems between people” had changed a little…
In the TV program both the woman and her daughter were interviewed. The daughter, now a teenager, said that her reaction to her mother wanting to blow herself up was anger. It had been very hard for her to be without her mother while she was imprisoned but she said that she preferred a mother in prison to a tomb.
The Moslem woman still disagrees with a lot of things in the Israeli society and she is busy working for her children to have a better future. ( I wouldn’t mind to team up with her !!!)
I believe in women like her and I do believe that there is more energy in dedicated women than in a belt with explosives…..

We are not that much different when it comes to the bottom of it !!!

Elin Elkouby

Jeg tillater meg å klippe ut dette fra teksten du skrev over. Det er jo her hele det norske problemet er. Vi skjønner ikke hva hamas er. Man kan ikke lese tall med bokstaver. Vi kommer fra en humanistisk kontekst(der man luker ut Gud og setter mennesket i sentrum) Hvordan kan man skjønne religioner når man selv ikke klarer å tenke i termer av overnaturlig kontekst?(Norge som stat) Hvordan kan man skjønne striden om den hellige stad f.eks? Hvordan kan man skjønne at løgn er ett alibi f.eks som er lov når det tjener til noe i favør av den troende. Hvordan kan man skjønne at det er land der ute som ikke har de samme etikk-reglene som vi har?

Sannheten er at jeg hater krig. Jeg synes ikke at noen har ett alibi for å drepe noen andre. Jeg er imot dødsstraff osv. Men jeg er også imot forvrengte sannheter. For det blir løgn. Det er derfor jeg er på bloggen her-for å prøve å gi flere nyanser.

http://elinelkouby.blogspot.com

Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Rockets reaching further.

One of the first news reports for today was that a house was hit in a place called Gedera. People there thought that they were out of reach. Again, as by a miracle, nobody got killed but a one year old baby got minor wounds .
Gedera is a little north- east from us.
We were actually expecting this to happen as a representative from Hamas was on TV yesterday saying that Hamas have rockets that can reach much further and that they will be “introduced to us shortly”.

The reactions from the world to what is going on remind me of a Dry Bones comic strip. It shows two people sitting in a boat with sharks all around them:
A:”Yikes. We’re surrounded by sharks in a feeding frenzy. ”
B:”So let’s give them a leg to eat that might satisfy them.”
A:”Where did you get a whacko idea like that ?”
B:”The Bill Clinton Manual for Jewish survival.”
( You can look it up at http://www.drybones.org.il/ go to …Cartoon Gallery and look up Dec.28.2000)

During the years 1978 and 1979 the Camp David agreement was worked out and signed. It resulted in all the Jewish settlements in the Sinai to be evacuated and destroyed.
It was in this period that the Israeli government encouraged Jews to move and settle in the Gaza Strip. It has been Israeli politics to settle Jews in areas with many Arabs in order to “soften up” the relationship between the two groups. Many of the Jews which were evacuated from the Sinai resettled in the Gaza Strip back then.
I know some of these people and know that it was not hatred towards Arabs that brought them to Gaza. Jews back in those days would do their shopping in Arab towns, would receive dental treatment at clinics run by Arabs and would often work side by side with Arabs.
In 2005 the Israeli government decided to evacuate all the Jews from Gaza in order to achieve peace. The situation had been growing “sour” since the Intifadas from 1987 and 2000 and moving the Jews out was seen as a solution to the problem in this area. 21 legal settlements and something like 2000 houses were destroyed as 8000 Jews lost their homes. 3000 Arabs who had been working in Jewish owned hothouses lost their jobs and income.
I heard no people having a problem with this out there……People didn’t even see anything extraordinary about it.(…. although no other government have ever done anything similar to what the Israeli government did….)
Since 2005 the rockets fired from Gaza at Israel became more frequent and also more sophisticated.
We cannot say that Israel’s efforts have been “blessed with peace”.

I am not smart enough to understand why Israel should have to accept a situation like this as I know for sure that no other country on earth would have reacted differently. The only difference is that they would have started a military operation much earlier.

We hear about the losses and our hearts are crying ….but there is no other alternative.
It is amazing how Hamas manages to do all their dirty works from the very center of civilian population.
So can I see no mistakes done by the Israelis ? Oh yes I do, and they make me cry…, but to start this military operation and to continue it is not to be counted among them.

Elin Elkouby

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